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scroll wheel desktop changing behaviour should be reversable
Status:
RESOLVED: WONTFIX
Severity:
enhancement

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Description sofar 2005-02-22 16:36:49 CET
The scroll wheel desktop flipping direction (up=left) is counterintuitive to a
large group of people, who consider UP an INCREMENT. as desktop 1 is a lower
number than 2, they would prefer that an UP scroll wheel event should result in
the desktop being changed to the RIGHT.

This is a fundamental breakpoint where people cannot get used to an interface
property. I hope you guys can consider it seriously. I love xfce4 but after
using it since ages this is still one of the things that confuse me! I would
most definately swap the behaviour if I could, thus... please make it swappable.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
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Comment 1 Brian J. Tarricone (not reading bugmail) 2005-10-15 12:31:56 CEST
*** Bug 649 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 Jason Moiron 2005-11-03 19:04:37 CET
(In reply to comment #0)
> The scroll wheel desktop flipping direction (up=left) is counterintuitive to a
> large group of people, who consider UP an INCREMENT. as desktop 1 is a lower
> number than 2, they would prefer that an UP scroll wheel event should result in
> the desktop being changed to the RIGHT.

The intuition behind down -> right and up -> left is mostly based on reading and
on vertical scroll wheel behavior.  In the vertical domain, scroll up and scroll
down of course go up and down, but since we read from top to bottom, it can also
be viewed as "go forward" and "go backwards" (in the current document).  There
has always been a set of (mostly novice) people who have found scroll wheel
behavior to be odd because the document itself scrolls upwards as you scroll
downwards, but once they understand that your document window is more of a
viewport than the document itself, they start to grasp it.

When extended to the horizontal scroll bar, the default GTK behavior (for my
locale at least; i'm not sure if its locale dependent) is to scroll to the right
on scroll down and to the left on scroll up.  For readers of languages that flow
left to right, this does *not* break the spatial paradigm described above, and,
 indeed, if you lined up the desktops horizontally (left to right) starting from
1 and vertically starting from 1, the vertical scrolling paradigm does not
change.  For your example, it does, or: your example would mean scrolling down
on vertically arranged desktops to move spatially upwards (following numbers in
decreasing order upwards), which is counterintuitive to normal scroll wheel
behavior.

Most people think spatially with the desktop metaphor (since it *is* spatial),
and not numerically, but since other wm's handle desktop scrolling in the way
you suggest I don't think that allowing this to be configurable is too damaging.
Comment 3 Brian J. Tarricone (not reading bugmail) 2005-11-03 19:39:28 CET
That's probably the best explanation I've heard so far.  I think the only bug
here is that we're probably not reversing the scroll direction if the text
direction is GTK_TEXT_DIRECTION_RTL.  Otherwise I think a pref here is
inconsistent and pref-bloat.  It would be a good idea to check if horizontal
scrolling usually does reverse for right-to-left locales.
Comment 4 Harold Aling 2007-02-15 21:07:58 CET
(In reply to comment #3)
> That's probably the best explanation I've heard so far.  I think the only bug
> here is that we're probably not reversing the scroll direction if the text
> direction is GTK_TEXT_DIRECTION_RTL.  Otherwise I think a pref here is
> inconsistent and pref-bloat.  It would be a good idea to check if horizontal
> scrolling usually does reverse for right-to-left locales.

Any right-to-left locales in the vincity???

Comment 5 Harold Aling 2007-09-23 12:13:34 CEST
AFAIK, this is the default behavior on many desktop environments.

I'm closing this bug since the last (real) comment was made in 2005, so I'm guessing there isn't much demand for it...

-H-
Comment 6 Erik-Jan 2008-05-06 18:30:49 CEST
Fot those who want this functionality:
See http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3361

Bug #796

Reported by:
sofar
Reported on: 2005-02-22
Last modified on: 2009-07-15
Duplicates (1):
  • 649 desktop mouse workspace wheeling direction is not configurable

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Olivier Fourdan
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