I like this program but I really feel something should be done about the dynamic systray icon. It is very large and bloated. Does it have to say "Orage" and then show the date? Does it have to be bright red? Does it have to have a border and does the border have to be so large? It could really benefit from having an option in the Preferences where one could decide what info to display. If one shrinks the dynamic icon, it becomes cramped and the text is forced outside of the box, even though the text size could easily shrink without becoming unreadable, especially if I'm using eee Ubuntu 8.04 with xubuntu-desktop and Orage 4.5.12.2-svn
Sorry, I accidentally sent this too fast. I meant to write: especially if the text where to be in a non-bold font and the color black instead of read.
hmm. lot of questions, but no real answers? Let's try to summarize: I like this program but I really feel something should be done about the dynamic systray icon. >> Maybe. It is very large and bloated. >> You can change its size in the settings dialoag. That does not help? Does it have to say "Orage" and then show the date? >> If you do not want to see the date nor texts, you should probably use the >> static icon. The idea in dynamic icon was to show the date. Does it have to be bright red? >> no, that was a trial to make it more pretty. Does it have to have a border and does the border have to be so large? >> the border is 1 pixel, so it can't be much smaller. Unless you mean something >> else than the lines in the icon? It could really benefit from having an option in the Preferences where one could decide what info to display. >> Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Not sure what the options should be. If one shrinks the dynamic icon, it becomes cramped and the text is forced outside of the box, even though the text size could easily shrink without becoming unreadable, especially if the text where to be in a non-bold font and the color black instead of read. >> Text should never get outside of the box. That is a bug.Could you show me >> a picture of that and give the values how to reproduce that. >> I am not using bold font on purpose. What is your system default font? >> I doubt colour has any effect on the font size? I am very open for ideas. Can you show me a picture of better dynamic icon, so that I could try to create one?
Created attachment 2010 Suggestions how the icon could look
>> hmm. lot of questions, but no real answers? I didn't know if you were open to suggestions or not. But I guess you are! :) >> You can change its size in the settings dialoag. That does not help? I just installed ubuntu-desktop instead of xubuntu and ironically the icon works much better now. The font isn't bold, the text fits in the box and the icon actually fits on a normal (24 px) panel. Maybe ubuntu-desktop installed something that I was previously missing. >> the border is 1 pixel, so it can't be much smaller. Unless you mean something else than the lines in the icon? >> I am very open for ideas. Can you show me a picture of better dynamic icon, so that I could try to create one? The icon doesn't really go with the rest of the style of xubuntu or ubuntu. I've made two suggestions, one that's more graphic (the right one) and one more simplistic that should be easier to recreate using only lines and boxes (the left one). I'm not much of a designer but the idea is that the "paper" should be white, the text should have a more subtle color (and the cool blue is favored by xfce, I've noticed but ubuntu's brown could also work or even one of the system colors). Also, I've made the box dark gray and added a shade instead of the double line on the right. I think that would emphasize the almanac more. I omitted the "Orage" text since it either doesn't fit in the box or shows as a few irritating pixels in the upper part of the icon. Of course, if you were to make the icon entirely graphic with text on top, it could become even prettier. But I guess it would be quite hard to program that, right? I'm not much of a programmer either. :) >> Yes, that sounds like a good idea. Not sure what the options should be. How about date format ("1/12", "1 dec", "mon") and colors? Size too but that's already there. I realize this is not huge issue and maybe there are other matters that's more urgent. However, it could be something to consider if you should happen to work with icon,
Great, thanks. That helps much more. Yes, I have been thinking to build the icon again anyway, so these ideas are welcomed. No changes will happen in 4.6 version however, so this will take some time.
I'm using the app-office/orage-4.4.3 on Gentoo Linux. The orage icon in systray looks like calendar sheet. But independently on current date this sheet shows the 1st day. I would like to see in the orage's tray icon the readable current day of month. Something like decreased calendar sheet from asclock dockapp.
Created attachment 2390 current view of orage pictogram, in systray
Created attachment 2391 asclock dockapp view
Orage 4.6 shows current date on systray icon.
(In reply to comment #9) > Orage 4.6 shows current date on systray icon. I've updated to XFce 4.6.1. Orage icon is systray really shows current date. But to my mind the icon itself looks much more ugly, than in XFce 4.3. The appearance like daily cut calendar sheet was much better. And, I think, badly readable application name shouldn't be placed in systray. Jabber icon (I'm using psi) looks rather well without it.
Created attachment 2419 orage-4.6.1 systray icon view
yep, the intention is to do it better.
(In reply to comment #12) > yep, the intention is to do it better. static view of the orage's systray icon in 4.6.1 and orage's systray icon in 4.4.3 are the same. To my mind it looks rather pretty. I'm not shure about usefulness of scalability. It should be enough just little bit enlarge it and add the feature of echoing the current date.
(In reply to comment #12) > yep, the intention is to do it better. To my mind, pictogram, like calendar sheet as it shown on asclock (and wmclock), may by extended by adding options of selecting font family and size + scalability is the wanted one.
Fixed now in Orage 4.7.4.11 in GIT. Removed Orage name and replaced it with weekday. Also size is now automatic, so no tuning is needed and size parameters were removed. Added parameter to turn dynamic icon off if somebody does not like it. Hope this is better now.
in 4.8.0