I wanted to "TRY" the Xfce system, but didn't know that I'd be commiting a TATTOO of it onto my KUBUNTU 4.7 "Gutsy Gibbon" setup by doing so. I have been banging around in various downloaded utilities for the past several days, in search of a "WAY BACK" to the KDE desktop I had become familiar with and now wish I could again use, particularly some of the utilities XFCE has apparently SHUT OFF... like Adept Installer (for finding new programs and updates, etc). I thank you in advance for your prompt reply with helpful "How To" consultation. I am (despite the now apparent "bondage" to XFCE) getting accustomed to Xfce a bit, and would probably like to come back to it later, if that is possible. How can I do that? (or not?) Best regards, thomchristy@gmail.com
Sorry, but this has nothing to do with Xfce per se. You should seek help in an Ubuntu-related forum.
(In reply to comment #1) > Sorry, but this has nothing to do with Xfce per se. You should seek help in an > Ubuntu-related forum. Hello Brian, and thanks for your prompt reply. Your view may be true, yet I was merely hoping someone with experience with Xfce might know how to go about uninstalling it, or at least how to "turn it off" so as to be able to boot back to regular KDE desktop, or reset a preference. I doubt that Xfce deleted KDE desktop, but more likely set a directive somewhere to boot to itself. I am not a programmer, so just asking if anyone who might have encountered this situation before might know whether there is perhaps something pertinent I can type in Terminal to make my laptop revert to KDE... whether there might be some simple ploy like that to try. Thanks - thomchristy@gmail.com >
No, this is not a help forum. This is a place to report bugs in Xfce. This is not a bug in Xfce. As I suggested, please use an Ubuntu help forum.
Thanks again for your prompt reply. I beg to differ with your conclusion, however. IMHO, any software that does not CLEARLY leave its user the OPTION (once installed) to UNINSTALL IT or - in some useful and convenient way - revert to their computer's (otherwise 100% functional) setup before their software was installed HAS A SERIOUS BUG STILL PRESENT in its scheme of operation... and in fact (in a real sense) does HARM to the overall experience of an individual attempting to use his computer productively. I have wasted a the better part of a week trying to figure out both XFCE and how to get it removed from my computer, but - as an experimental user of new softwares - the possibility of such downtimes sort of goes with the territory, and I lose no sleep over it. I do, however, take exception to what surely seems an overtly defensive, unimaginative, self-serving attitude on your part, wherein you seem totally unable to even consider the possibility that there "might" be something lacking in your project's product. Why would I want to ask the UBUNTU people about this issue, when their installation on my machine was working just fine before I installed the Xfce software packages? The truth is, you have been NO HELP at all, sir, and I will neither trouble you further nor bother with any additional wasted attempts at using Xfce, nor will I recommend (but rather warn against) the Xfce approach to anyone in conversations about Linux possibilities. In fact, at this point, it will be a refreshing joy to reinstall the Kubuntu 7.01 suite from scratch on my machine, as it now appears that is what it will take to finally GET RID of XFCE.
(In reply to comment #4) > Thanks again for your prompt reply. I beg to differ with your conclusion, > however. IMHO, any software that does not CLEARLY leave its user the OPTION > (once installed) to UNINSTALL IT or - in some useful and convenient way - > revert to their computer's (otherwise 100% functional) setup before their > software was installed HAS A SERIOUS BUG STILL PRESENT in its scheme of > operation... Xfce upstream _only_ provides source tarballs. The makefile scripts _do_ support make uninstall. Xfce _only_ installs .desktop files that may be used by gdm and kdm to choose what desktop environment to launch -- but this then doesn't set the default to use. > and in fact (in a real sense) does HARM to the overall experience > of an individual attempting to use his computer productively. I have wasted a > the better part of a week trying to figure out both XFCE and how to get it > removed from my computer You've very probably used the package manager in your distro to install xfce. You should use it to uninstall it too. >, but - as an experimental user of new softwares - the > possibility of such downtimes sort of goes with the territory, and I lose no > sleep over it. I do, however, take exception to what surely seems an overtly > defensive, unimaginative, self-serving attitude on your part, wherein you seem > totally unable to even consider the possibility that there "might" be something > lacking in your project's product. Why would I want to ask the UBUNTU people > about this issue, when their installation on my machine was working just fine > before I installed the Xfce software packages? Because the problem is not related to Xfce -- the problem is related to how your distro has packaged Xfce. > The truth is, you have been NO > HELP at all, sir, and I will neither trouble you further nor bother with any > additional wasted attempts at using Xfce, nor will I recommend (but rather warn > against) the Xfce approach to anyone in conversations about Linux > possibilities. In fact, at this point, it will be a refreshing joy to > reinstall the Kubuntu 7.01 suite from scratch on my machine, as it now appears > that is what it will take to finally GET RID of XFCE. > I'd suggest calming down, perhaps getting some sleep. Really.
Even if it is not an Xfce bug, I want to comment. Did you see the little "Sessions" button in your display manager (which is KDM by default with KUbuntu)? There you can choose on what to log into. If you don't see Xfce in the session list, report a bug against the ubuntu kdm package. If you want to know how to add sessions to kdm, read our faq[0]. If you want to know more about kdm, feel free to search the web. [0] http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#setting_up_kdm
Just a note of thanks here to Mr. Mike Massonet - I appreciate your timely input and useful instruction. As it happened, yesterday afternoon (before receiving your reply) I noticed for the first time a small unmarked box on the opening splash page of Kubuntu that, when clicked, opens into a list of boot-up options. Until then, Xfce would dominate the boot, and as a result shut off some KDE utilities I would have otherwise tried to deploy in order to disable Xfce. I am grateful also to you for including the link to discover more about KDE and its diverse functionalities. Yours is the sort of on-target-appropriate clear thinking that one can only hope for after all attempts to resolve an issue "on one's own" have proven ineffective. You were able to read beyond my frustration (apologies to Brian & Alexander!) to answer the issues I was as yet (apparently) unable to adequately frame. Best regards ~ thomchristy@gmail.com