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GUI suggestion: Remove search box instead of graying out.
Status:
RESOLVED: WONTFIX
Product:
Xfce4-settings
Component:
Settings Manager

Comments

Description Sergio 2019-06-26 19:55:17 CEST
Created attachment 8688 
Grayed out un-clickable box.

The search box is gray and disabled in the settings manager sub-items. This is quite misleading until we learn that, e.g. in the theme I'm using, the enabled one is white and the disabled one is gray.

If there's no intention of enabling it in sub-items that can used it (like, currently MIME type editor and xfconf editor have their own search fields), then having no search box at all in the sub-items will prevent people wondering why it isn't working (I'm not so dumb, but I installed the system from a basic iso and wondered if I had some package missing before I realized that the box actually was disabled).
Comment 1 Sergio 2019-06-26 19:57:07 CEST
Note in the screenshot that the check boxes, which are active, are gray with my theme (Bluebird), so no wonder I thought the search box should be active too.
Comment 2 Theo Linkspfeifer editbugs 2019-06-27 16:49:35 CEST
Created attachment 8695 
screenshot

Alternatively, the opacity of the search box could be lowered.
Comment 3 Sergio 2019-06-27 22:33:04 CEST
Definitely better to display that it isn't active.
Comment 4 Andre Miranda editbugs 2019-06-30 03:40:40 CEST
Created attachment 8708 
settings-manager-hide-search.diff

I would hide the search entry altogether, the attached diff accomplishes this (whoever pushes this can take authorship).
Comment 5 Simon Steinbeiss editbugs 2019-07-03 23:42:00 CEST
I consider this a wontfix because your Gtk+ theme is responsible for making you aware that an item is insensitive/unusable. Modifying the opacity of a widget in the code on top of the theme is not just disrespecting the theme's design, it is also potentially irritating and even more confusing than what you describe.

Hiding the widget feels very disruptive, even though in this case it'd be the preferable option.

From my point of view the better solution is to leave things as they are. I don't see the problem with the insensitive widget. There are a lot of other conditional dialogs that make widgets/items sensitive/insensitive based on other settings.
Comment 6 Andre Miranda editbugs 2019-07-04 04:16:37 CEST
(In reply to Simon Steinbeiss from comment #5)
100% Agreed.
Comment 7 Simon Steinbeiss editbugs 2019-07-04 09:51:34 CEST
Alright, closing as wontfix then.

Bug #15645

Reported by:
Sergio
Reported on: 2019-06-26
Last modified on: 2019-07-04

People

Assignee:
Xfce Bug Triage
CC List:
3 users

Version

Version:
4.13.6

Attachments

Grayed out un-clickable box. (79.92 KB, image/png)
2019-06-26 19:55 CEST , Sergio
no flags
screenshot (64.42 KB, image/png)
2019-06-27 16:49 CEST , Theo Linkspfeifer
no flags
settings-manager-hide-search.diff (1.19 KB, patch)
2019-06-30 03:40 CEST , Andre Miranda
no flags

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